FAQs on 5-String Banjo Video Samplers

Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:33:19 +1300
Subject: VIDEO SAMPLER

G/DAY MICKEY FROM NEW ZEALAND.
I have watched your video sampler of "" JESU, JOY OF MANS DESIRING "" that you play on the 5 string banjo, and you play it absolutely beautiful. I have tried to get the tab for it but the tab I located is nothing like the version you play, I am only a beginner banjo player, and have only been playing for 12 months, I would be very grateful if you could tell me where I could locate the tab of the version you play,or is it your own compilation,? if so would it be at all possible to obtain a copy from you?

KIND REGARDS
ALAN FIELD

Greetings Alan,

Yes, I've had many requests for this piece to be tabbed out...and, I do appreciate your kind words.

I will do my best to fit it in the schedule...and finalize a tabbed out version of the banjo piece...I'm also requested to tab out the mandolin version of this piece...

So, please hang in there...and stay tuned on our banjo lessons section at:
For free acoustic music lessons:
http://www.folkofthewood.com/page3.htm

I may post it in our new section of tabs from the video "Introduction to the 5-String Banjo"...for this very same piece is also showcased in the "Classical": section of the video.

Keep on Pickin', Mickey

Subject: Re: Fwd: deering sierra video
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:12:58 -0400

Hi Mickey thanks for your quick response, I'm sure you are real busy. the songs are on the deering sierra video sampler, I couldn't find a page number, just sampler #1,2,+3, the one that really intrigued me was #3, it sounded like aold classical christmas song, I'm an intermediate player, I have a sierra, and found your rendition very inspiring,thanks for your time Jerry L

Greetings Jerry, Thanks for your consideration and continued interest:

Deering Sierra #1:
Notes: This piece was originally recorded by "Country Cooking" with Peter Wernick and Tony Trischka...it's currently available in tab through Peter Wernick's book: "Bluegrass Banjo" originally published by Oak Publications. Title: "Tequila Mockingbird"

Deering Sierra #2:
Notes: This is a popular bluegrass banjo instrumental...titled "Salt Creek"...a great rendition of this can be heard on traditional bluegrass recordings performed by Bill Keith and Bill Monroe.

Deering Sierra #3:
Notes: This is one of my all-time favorite classical pieces: "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring". Originally penned by Bach...I use this tune quite often on many different samplers....allowing the listener to compare banjo to banjo with the same tune. It's also an example of where the banjo can be taken musically. There are many other possibilities of what can be accomplished on a 5-string banjo within a classical setting.

Deering Sierra #4:
Notes: This is a turn-of-the-century piece originally penned by Scott Joplin titled: "Maple Leaf Rag"...if you like this arrangement, be sure to check out our current selection of Fred Sokolow books. He is the master of 3-finger ragtime banjo!

Hope this opens some windows for you...and, be sure to let me know how else I might personally assist, Mickey

Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: deering sierra video
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:28:58 -0400

hi Mick, Bach on the banjo, I like that.I spend alot of time loking at banjo's surfing. but while its great to look at them, old and new, you can't hear them which defeats an instrument purchase, unless you play russian roulette.You guys have the only samples I've seen, the sound and video are fantastic,so you get a good sound bite. My wife andI actually spent saterday night watching you play,impressive to say the least.Thank you so much for your time and effort, we'll be back to visit, many thanks, the Leibrandt family Goffstown N.H.

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:50:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Fwd: question for Mickey

Mickey,
Thanks for your response. I spoke with James and making the trade in was easier than I thought. Folk of the Woods definately does stand behind their guarantee. While I'm waiting for the Wildwood Heirloom, would you know where I could get the tablature to the "Sting" like you play in the Heirloom Video sample #4. If you have any other recommendations for Melodic/classical type banjo material I would appreciate it.
Thanks again.
Joe Caloger

Greetings Joe,

It's good to hear that you're on track with the Heirloom...

For the music to the "Sting" arrangement, check with all of Fred Sokolow's books...he does about the best 3-finger ragtime banjo arrangements I've heard to date...

Mel Bay has an excellent Classical Banjo book available...
http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?productid=97163

Hope this helps, Mickey

Subject: Att: Mickey ( love is blue )
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:29:06 -0700

Hi Mickey Cochran
I sent you an e-mail asking the name of the song you played in video sampler for Wildwood artist number 5 and you said it
was Love is Blue where can I find the tabs to that song you played.

I'm not too sure...there was once a book out by Greg Gilbert...he had a very nice arrangement...he didn't have the B Part of Love is Blue as played in my arrangement...I've tried to get him to come back out with the book...only, it appears that it will be on hold for awhile longer...

I may have to come out with my own arrangement of this piece in book format...along with other pieces within the same genre...of course, there will also have to be a royalty fee paid out to music publishing houses...so the book will be somewhat expensive.

So please stay tuned with us...and keep on pickin', Mickey

Tried the net but no good can you send me the Banjo tabs
for the song or are they in one of your books if so which one so I can see if I can locate the book.
May be hard to find up here in Canada
Thanks so much
Wayne Price

Subject: like to know
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:12:10 -0700

Hi FOTW
Was playing your Banjo samplers and ran across the Wildwood Artist number 5 sampler can you tell me the name of that song he's playing
and if one can get tabs for it just love to play the song.
You have a top web site keep up the good work go in your web site all the time to listen to Banjo Sampler
Thanks
Wayne Price

Greetings Wayne,

This melody is titled "Love is Blue"...the arrangement I do is based as follows:
First Part: Based on an arrangement, not exact but close, by one of our writers...
http://www.wisdomofthewood.com/page11.htm#greg

From "Banjo Sampler" soon to be released...we hope???

Second Part: My arrangement in its entirety...

Thanks for the kind words regarding our website...

Keep on Pickin', Mickey

Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 23:24:50 -0700 (PDT)

Hello Mickey from Calgary Canada,
I've been surfing your banjo video samplers to help determine what my next 5string purchase will be, and I have a somewhat offtopic question I was hoping you could help me with. I have fallen in love with one of the songs you play, I have seen/heard it on 2 samplers so far...I was wondering what this song is? Is it one of yours or is it a common tune? I would pay dearly to find some tab for it somewhere... The song is located on the following samplers: Stelling Sunflower #2 and the GoldTone OB LongNeck #1.
Thank you very much for any help you can give!
-Shea

Greetings Shea,

This melody is titled "John Hardy"...it's a traditional piece and is commonly played in bluegrass jam sessions...I really do like this piece played in the key of E on the longneck...it's got tremendous depth.

You may find tab on this piece on www.banjohangout.com...my arrangement is completely unique; notwithstanding, you should be able to find some tab that comes close or even sounds better than my arrangement...

Good luck with your research efforts, Mickey

Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:30:2 -0600

Hey Micky,
I know a lot of the videos are improvised, but I'm very interested in knowing the name of the tune you play for Stelling Swallowtail Sample #1. I can only describe the first part as "mountain music-sounding" minor key.

Greetings,

Yes, the first part does have the "Mountain Modal" tonality...and, yes, most of this sampler does have improvised passages...however, the skeletal frame is a hybrid passage heavily influenced by two other melodies...one called "Turkey Knob" (from Eddie Adcock) and another titled "Shelton Special" (from Allen Shelton)...

If you don't have any recordings of these banjoists, I'd highly recommend that you purchase whatever you can find...both are true innovators on the banjo...and as all of us being lifetime students of the banjo, these two banjoists are an essential study...
Find thme both at the following websites:

http://www.eddieandmarthaadcock.com/

http://www.bluegrassmusic.com/reviews/shelton.htm

Mickey

Subject: Song Title
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:39:53 -0400

Hi,

My husband and I love your website and he often listens to the video clips. Can you tell me the title of the song played in Gold Tone Banjola #6?

Sorry to bother you with this, but it is really beautiful and he would like to get 5 string banjo music for it. If it is available on your site, please let me know.

Thank you,

Barbara

Greetings Barbara,

Glad to assist:

This is one of my personal favorites...I wrote this melody a couple of decades ago...it's titled: "Homegrown"...and it focuses on building a texture through chord coloring while letting the melody walk itself down the neck...you're one of the first to ask about this particular piece...

I hope to write out the tablature for this piece someday soon...I was hoping to document all of my originals through both sheet music and recordings...most of the pieces will be offered up in our banjo lessons section at:

http://www.folkofthewood.com/page3.htm

Thanks for staying tuned with us...Mickey

Subject: White Ladye
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:16:16 -0400

The White Layde, as I hear it in your video samples, is just what I'm looking for; However, when I listen to that banjo played on Gold Tone's web page, it sounds MUCH more "plunky", and definitely not what I'm looking for. I play 3-finger style, not bluegrass, and want a more traditional sounding banjo that has some volume but doesn't ring like the bells in Notre Dame Cathedral, as so many newer bluegrass banjos do. Are the ones in your video samples enhanced, or anything special done to them to get the kind of sound you recorded? In other words, if I got a White Ladye would it have a sound as on your videos or would I need to special order something? Thanks for your help.

Bill Martin
Charlotte NC

Greetings Bill,

I'm not sure why this is...I attempted to load their sampler, only I wasn't able to with my Mac platform...I suspect that their samplers are written for PC compatibility...

I believe what you may be hearing is the approach...you see, most open-backs are played with the frailing style...and, I'm sure that's what they're demonstrating on their site...now, I'm not a frailer so I demonstrate all of our open-backs with the three-finger approach...which is how I use my own open-back...classical, ragtime, standards, and so on...I do not enhance our video samplers in any way...

The White Ladye comes standard with the fiberskyn head, if you like the sound I'm getting, simply have the fiberskyn head changed out with the standard frosted head...you will then hear more crispness in tone...and since it's an open-back, you wouldn't have to worry about it resonating and ringing like a bluegrass banjo...

Hope this helps, Mickey

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:09:54 -0800
Subject: mickey banjo samplers

hi mickey
great playing in your banjo samplers...... some of your arrangements
seem to be a creative chord exercises with a lot of thought to make it
sound real good or they are arrangements that i'm not familiar with, one
i can think of is the john hartford # 4 and there are others... what
are they and how can a person practice them?
thanks mickey and your samplers are first cabin
regards
mike pray
in the frozen north

Greetings Mike,

This particular piece, the Hartford #4, is titled "Pony Express"...and, yes, it's sort of a chordal study with a combination of rolls. There are a few other tunes that use this kind of technique too...

I think it would be a grand idea to create some exercises and studies utilizing these chordal movements...I'll try to incorporate a few in our online lessons section: http://www.folkofthewood.com/page3.htm

Thanks for the idea! Keep on Pickin', Mickey

Subject: Goodtime Special Video
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:51:58 -0600

I just found your website and have been listening to some of the wonderful video samples of the Deering banjos. (I have a Goodtime open back, purchased in 1998). Please tell me who is playing on the Goodtime Special videos and is he using finger picks or just playing finger/classical style?

Thanks,

Bob Sutton

Greetings Bob,

Thanks for staying tuned with us on our website...

On the Goodtime Special videos, I'm using fingerpicks most of the time...one in awhile, I'll use fingernails in the traditional classical style...both have their place...

Keep on Pickin', Mickey

Subject: Videos
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:36:30 -0500

Nice job on the banjo videos - what a cool idea and so basic ! You can hear the subtle differences in them. - I stumbled upon your website and they enabled me to finally make up my mind to buy a Stelling (found a Red Fox in Ohio)

Mickey's a great banjo player - very inspiring.

Thanks, Kurt Wolf

Greetings Kurt,

Thanks so much for the positive words...it inspires us to work harder on our support system...

Stelling is phenomenal! What impeccable craftsmanship!!!?

Mickey

Subject: Video/DVD & Tab
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:19:50 +0100

Dear Folk at Folk of the Wood,

Greetings Klaus,

I just happened to find your excellent website and couldn't resist listening in to a few of your Stelling mini-audio-videos. Do you happen to have / to sell a Video/DVD and Tab of the excellent version of Bach's "Jesu, Bleibt meine Freude" (Jesus, Joy of Man's Desiring) used for demonstrating the Stelling Swallowtail (Example 2)?

I currently do not have a DVD available on our video samplers...however, we have considered this before...of which, I believe would be a great idea as a video catalog. Now, I am working on the tab of this piece...and, hopefully, will have it completed soon...there is another arrangement available that comes close to this one...only, it doesn't include the second part: Peter Seeger's "How to Play 5-String Banjo"...it's a great book and is available once in a while on Ebay...

I should be happy to hear from you. Listening was a treat. Thank you and keep up the good work!

Klaus

Dr. Klaus Martens

Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:29:04 -0400

Hi Mickey,

I was rootin thru the vidio samplers and I sure like Sierra #3.

Can you tell me the title and do you have the the tab?

Thanks, Myron

Greetings Myron,

This sampler is a rendition of a Bach Classic: "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring"

Sorry, we currently do not have the tab of this piece...there's a great arrangement found in Pete Seeger's "How to Play Banjo" which mine is influenced by...it's arranged in open G tuning...it doesn't offer the B Part...my B Part is influenced by Leo Kottke who performed this on his original Takoma label LP: "6 & 12-String Guitar"...

I hope to write out the tabs on this piece, along with many others, sometime before the year ends...

Thanks so much for your kind interest in our samplers...

Keep on Pickin', Mickey

Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 23:50:56 -0700
Subject: Name that Tune... Crossfire vs. Deering D-6

Greetings Charlie,

Thanks for your enquiries...we're more than happy to assist you
further with your questions.

Sorry to be a pest. I have hit you with emails regarding a Deering
Crossfire vs. a 6 or 12 string banjo for a variety of styles. Here are
tonight's questions:

The more I hear a Crossfire, the more I want it for its range of tones,
styles, etc. In the back of my bluegrass/rockabilly mind there is an
old love for classical and flamenco. My questions: What is the name of
the piece Mickey plays on the deering D-6 Video #5 finger picking
sampler?

This piece is a take-off on the old flamenco favorite:
Malagueña...the beginning of the video starts out with the spanish
dance theme similar to Frederick M. Noad's "Classical Guitar"...after
the theme is established, the rest of the video is all improvisation
based on the major C scale out of the key of Am...

(I am embarassed as it is so well recognized and he plays it,
along with everything else, so well.) Secondly, this is obviously a
Spanish composition written for the guitar (I should know it!!!) yet I
would like to know if it would be possible to play it on the 5 String
banjo, specifically, the Crossfire if I were to purchase one.

Most definitely...in fact, I believe there are a few examples of this
very same theme played on a 5-string on our video sampler
page...unfortunately, I'm not sure where it would be located.

I am comfortable playing melodic 5 string as opposed to three finger blue
grass and think, from what I have heard, that with the right
arrangement, this particular Spanish style song could sound great out of
a Crossfire. Here's the "sucker punch" question: if I bought a
Crossfire from you folks, would Mickey be willing to send me a tab or at
least some chords/suggestion on how to get started with this song?

Sure, I'll attempt to write out a tablature version of my Malagueña
interpretation for 5-string. It may take awhile...I was hoping to
compile a book with unique tab arrangements of songs for 5-string
that lay outside of the bluegrass parameters.

I know that is really pushing it and a "no" won't hurt my feelings nor
scare me away from your rock bottom prices.

Which leads to my last question, besides wanting to experiment and just
have fun, I am looking at the Crossfire as an axe I can use to play with
my electric (Stratocaster) guitar playing son. I will have the chance to
visit the Deering factory on the 16th. They were nice enough to offer
me a factory tour as well as tim to "play" in their showroom.

I believe the Crossfire would fit within other electric settings very
well...you would be mostly dependent on the type of sound
reinforcement you'll be using. The amp and its settings will assist
you in harmonizing the Crossfire with most any other instrument
within electric ensembles. One of the biggest advantages of the
Crossfire, over any other acoustic banjo (including those with
transducers), is that it can be played in the loudest situations (as
with drummers) without any feedback problems.

I know a lot of these questions are repetitious. Please forgive me. I
am a 48 year old boy drooling for a particular new toy. Thanks, Charlie

I'm glad to assist...Mickey

Subject: scruggs tuners
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:46:39 -0400

I was wondering if you could fill me in a little more on the song that is played on your website in the video/audio file section. It is the one that is apparently called "Riding the Waves" and it is played in the site showing the Keith tuners. I have a song that Earl Scruggs played that is very similar to that (if not the same???), but I don't have a name on that song. I was wondering if this was original a scruggs song and possibly something I could get the tablature for? It really makes me want to consider obtaining some keith tuners for my banjo...really cool song. I'd like to know more about it if you wouldn't mind filling me in. Thanks. Sincerely, Rick Cicciarelli

Greetings Rick,

Yes, this song is titled "Riding the Waves"...I first heard this on the album by Marshall Brickman and Eric Weissberg "Dueling Banjos"...

I'm not sure of it's origin...on the album, the tune only states: Adapted and Arranged by Marshall Brickman and Eric Weissberg. If you find anything else out about this tune, please let me know.

As far as tab goes, I do not believe there's anything on the market to date with this album tabbed out...my arrangement is somewhat based on the album...I'd love to take on the project of tabbing out this album (at least somebody should...somebody from Australia once mentioned that they were taking it on as a project...haven't heard anything to date)...it's truly a banjo classic...you'll find many other tunes on the album to be quite intriguing...especially if you're a banjo instrumental fan.

I believe the Keith Tuners go far beyond the capability of being able to play banjo classics. I personally like them and feel more secure with the tuning...simply because once you do have a string tuned to pitch, you can secure it further by locking down one of the stop screws.

Hope this helps, Mickey

Subject: name of song played in Stelling Red Fox video sampler #1
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:51:32 -0500

Can you please tell me the name of the song played in your Stelling Red Fox video sampler #1 ? Thanks much!

Tom Mullin

Greetings Tom...

The name of this particular piece is "Pony Express"...Hint: It's part of our current contest this month.

The only recording I've heard of this particular tune was Marshall Brickman and Eric Weisberg on the "Deliverance" album (great album by the way)...lots of great tunes besides "Dueling Banjos"...

Hope this helps...Mickey
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 01:34:53 -0700
Subject: Names of songs

Hello Mickey! I'm curious, i wonder if you can tell me the names of
two songs you play in your 5 string banjo samplers? The first one is
the song you play in your sampler no.2 of the Deering Vega no.2 and
the second song is the sampler no.5 of the Deering Véga No.2.
Congratulation for your fantastic web site!!
Thanks and
have a good day!!

François Camirand

Greetings Francois,

Thanks for your interest:

sampler no.2 of the Deering Vega no.2
This melody is an original of mine...I also used it on the background
of my "Intro to 5-String Banjo" video...I hope to tab it out and
include it in a new column I'm currently writing for BNL (Banjo
Newsletter)...as an unorthodox arrangement for banjo using 3-finger
bluegrass techniques...

http://www.folkofthewood.com/page1668.htm

sampler no.5 of the Deering Véga No.2
This is another original blues piece...which, again, is scheduled to
be tabbed out in Banjo Newsletter for a tentative Rock-Blues
column...this piece demonstrates the grand possibilities behind
supporting melody lines with a monotonic bass. BNL is hoping to
include this column; however, it's still tentative for now...

http://www.folkofthewood.com/page1671.htm

For Banjo Newsletter info...check out: http://www.banjonews.com/

Thanks for your kind enthusiasm...Mickey

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:43:51 -0800

Dear Folks at FOTW,

Would it be possible for you to tell me the name of the tune being played in
the Gibson Earl Scruggs Standard 5-String Banjo Video Sampler #2?

Thank you,

Mitch

P.S. You have a great site. I just began ordering products from you. Thanks
for being there.

Greetings Mitch,

Thanks for the kind words regarding our website.

The tune in question is titled: "Red Haired Boy"...I believe its origin is Scottish.

This tune is played in the Melodic/Keith style where every consecutive note of the melody is played on a separate string. This gives it more of a waterfall effect...

Keep on pickin', Mickey

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:14:38 -0600

Dear Mickey

There is a song that you play on your video sample that I really like, you play it with
a Deering vega #2 on video #3
a Deering Sierra on video #3
a Wildwood Heirloom on video #3
I know you have more important things to do than to answer trivia questions, but could you please E-mail me and let me know the name of this song, it sounds beautiful on an open back banjo.

Thanks H. Guinn

Greetings Harold,

Yes, this is a classic Bach piece titled "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring"...classical music works very well on open-back banjos...I also love doing 3-finger ragtime arrangements...

Pete Seeger has a book/record that he published many years ago: "5-String Banjo" which can be found once in awhile on Ebay. If you see it, you might enjoy his classical arrangements...my version is styled after his...

Wish you the best in your research efforts...Mickey

Subject: Video samplers
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:42:21 -0600

I know this is kind of a strange question, but what is the tune that is
being played on the Goldtone CC100R #1 sampler and where can I get the tab
for it? I am a beginner to bluegrass and I can't seem to get that tune out
of my head. You have a great website.

Thanks for the appreciation...

The tune referenced (CC-100R Video Sampler #1)...is titled: "Pony Express"

I first heard this tune on Marshall Brickman's "Dueling Banjo" soundtrack album...if you don't have this album, be sure to purchase it off of Amazon.com... Sorry, I know of no printed tab on this piece...I would have liked to seen this entire album transcribed to tab...and, even had one individual out of Australia who stated that he was working on a project of this nature...

Subject: Trade up decision
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:33:01 -0600

I am still trying to decide which banjo is going to be the right one for me. I am wanting a bit more

tone and finish than the Boston I ordered last month. After listening to the various Quicktime video

samplers I am undecided between the Golden Era, Maple Blossom or the Gibson RB3. The audio on

the samplers doesn't distinguish tonal characteristics between mahogany and maple well enough to

hear the difference. Could you recommend any recordings or recording artists I could listen to that would

help clarify the tones of the two woods?

Thanks

MB

Greetings,

There are certainly plenty of banjoists playing a variety of banjos...however, to truly determine the difference between mahogany and maple woods, you'll want to hear the same brand of banjo...such as a Maple Blossom vs Deering Sierra...

You might try: http://www.deeringbanjos.com They have some superb soundbytes...

And, if you haven't tried headphones with our video samplers to date...you may find that it will assist you in distinguishing tonal range and color...our samplers are digitally recorded...and when plugging headphones into your computer, you should achieve CD quality....

Additionally, we have a video dedicated to the Deering line-up...which has plenty of samplers along with the use of a variety of banjos...from the Maple Blossom to the Calico...titled: "Intro to the 5-String Banjo"...

At your disposal, Mickey

Subject: Great video clips!
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:53:56 -0700

Good Day,

I'm a new banjo player, long-time percussionist and I just found your great site while doing some online research. The video clips are so great. I live in Corvallis, OR where it seems there is a shortage of Bluegrass banjo instructors. However, I've been pretty successful learning on my own from many different books and am having a blast. I was wondering if you could tell me what two of the tunes on the following page are called:

http://www.folkofthewood.com/page2519.htm

The two tunes are played in the following video clips:
Gibson Earl Scruggs Standard #2
Gibson Earl Scruggs Standard #5

I really like #5. I really appreciate your help and the great resource you are putting together on the site. I'm planning on adding some bluegrass flavor to our band's energetic Stout Irish Music sound.

Have a lovely day!
Jeremy

AMADAN-Stout Irish Music!
http://www.amadanusa.com
http://www.mp3.com/amadan/

Greetings Jeremy,

Thanks for the kind words regarding our website...

Gibson Earl Scruggs Standard #2

This is a tune titled: "Red Haired Boy"...traditional Celtic...played in the melodic banjo style...this "chromatic style" was first introduced by Bill Keith and is sometimes referred to as the "Keith Style".

Gibson Earl Scruggs Standard #5

This is a tune titled: "Banjo Boy Chimes"...in tribute to Sonny Osborne of the Osborne Brothers...it's a completely rearranged version with only the chord progression remaining true to the original...for further recordings of Sonny check out the following: http://www.osbornebros.com/

Hope this helps...Mickey

P.S. I checked out your Amadan site...very nice indeed! I've linked from our site to yours...watch for it in our: "other sites of interest" page.